September 10th 2001

Did the Government, or the airlines have prior knowledge on Sept 10th 2001,

or early on Sept 11th before the first plane was reported hijacked ?

In the wake of finding out about 2 of the 911 planes not being scheduled for Sept 11th ( flight 11 and 77) I did a little backtracking on some flights and airports from the BTS gov website. I found that at several airports there were very long delays for some planes. Below are just some of the results which i graphed. Keep in mind, these are averages of many planes. So in reality what happened was that there were VERY long delays for a few planes which threw these graphs off the charts. Some delays can be expected, but taking an average, puts this into perspective.

What really happened to American Airlines Flights 11 and 77 on Sept 11, 2001
by Gerard Homgren 10:44am Thu Nov 13 '03 (Modified on 11:49am Mon Jan 5 '04)
sydney.indymedia.org

Detailed Statistics > Departure Statistics
news.globalfreepress.com/ewing/airline_boston911.html

Some quotes from the 9-11 Commission hearings:

911hearing7pt2.pdf

"On September 10th, 2001, aviation security in this country was on a peacetime footing."

911hearing2pt2.pdf

"...But basically the comments I received from my staff was that there was no intelligence
indication at any level within NORAD or DOD of a terrorist threat to commercial aviation prior to the attacks." (Major General Craig McKinley)
So what about the bomb alert at San Jose airport on Sept 10th?

Barely mentioned anywhere else on the Internet (could someone maybe want to keep it quiet?) it is dealt with in some depth in the following article from the Campbell Reporter which I've saved here. (Note: please use the saved link, these things tend to disappear)

This article discusses a woman flying on AA Flight 299 from JFK to San Jose the night before September 11th.

full story here...
www.the-movement.com/essays/lies.htm (from Frank at www.the-movement.com )

Fire Temporarily Closes Newark Airport
Monday, September 10, 2001

Fire Temporarily Closes Newark Airport

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- Officials shut down flights at Newark International
Airport for 35 minutes Monday because of a fire at a construction site.

The fire was at the new administration building, which is several miles
from the main terminals. No injuries were immediately reported.

Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New
Jersey, said flights were halted because airport firefighting equipment
was used to put out the blaze.

Major delays were not expected because the fire happened at about 1 p.m.
and midday schedules are generally light, Coleman said.

The cause of the fire was under investigation.

archives.californiaaviation.org/airport/msg16853.html

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Somehow, i doubt that this could cause all the delays at different airports.

John F Kennedy International (JFK)

Departure Delays
At JFK 5 of 19 planes had taxi out times of over 100 minutes, 3 of those were over 200 and 4 departure delays over 100 mins, one of which ws 358 mins for UA and 0 for Sept 3rd.
On the same day one week prior, there were 0 delays of 21 planes over 100 mins, the longest delay was 57 mins.

Just as a curiosity, I checked North West it had 3 taxi out delays out of 5 flights from JFK on the 10th over 100 mins

Arrival Delays

JKF airport September 10th 911

I thought that maybe I had not gone back far enough with the BTS data, and that it may have been a coincidence,
so I did a 22 day histoy ending on September 10th.
The fact is, there were less delays and a more even distribution the farther I went back.
Note here, the numbers are for the days of data (21) not the days of the month. This data's end point is Sept 10th.

JKF airport united airlines September 10th taxi-out flight

JKF airport united airlines September 10th taxi-out flight

So I decided to check other airports in the area
Below are the result for Newark and Laguardia

On Sept 10th at La Guardia (LGA) 12 out of 59 planes had a taxi-out time of over 100 minuites. I decided to see how many had that amount onw week earlier, the same day of the week. There was 1 for AA
8 out of 29 flights for UA out of La Guardia (LGA) on Sept 10th had taxi out times of over 100 minutes, with 0 for Sept 3rd one week earlier.

American airlines AA September 10th

American airlines Sept 10th Newark flight dd

American airlines September 10th Newark plane flight taxi

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was it flight 93, 175 or both 2-591s.html
On Sept 10th tail #591UA was recorded at 2 places at one time thats just the beginning!
flight 93 (or was it?) backtracking tail #'s the 2 591's

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"Twin tails" of pre-Flight 93 and other "phantom flights"
The official timeline of Sept 11th is breaking apart.
Atta's Portland flight didn't exist; various flights of the official flights or the tail numbers of their
precursors existed twice; new, recently unknown terror drills show, that the scenario of 9/11 was well known; the new "flight plans" and meeting points of the alleged hijacked flights included too many
coincidences; the planners of the "hijack" must have had inside knowledge about other flights and their
cancellations as well.
On Sept 10th 2001 a plane with the tail# N591UA was reported in 2 different places at the same time according to the BTS Government database at www.bts.gov this plane was reported the next day to have crashed as flight 93. More...

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9/10- 9/11: The Johnstown "Terror Team" Cover-up

The Johnstown-Cambria Airport "Terror" Team The final procedures: Johnstown, Pennsylvania and DC
Many 9/11 researchers pray it all over again: "There were lots of warnings."
It was more than this. The United States lied to us. During 2001, especially in the summer, they mentally prepared, drilled, trained and brainwashed local U.S. communities about a pending (bio-)terror attack, including in the areas of Westmoreland County/Johnstown/Shanksville, Florida, DC and New York. In these 2 parts we will once again focus on the Johnstown Area, which was 30 miles away from the official crash of "flight 93". On September 10th, 2001, the day before 9/11, the Cambria County Local Emergency Planning Committee, had their final "terror meeting" of many, which took place in the area around Shanksville....

Much more about tail number oddities here...
airgames.bravehost.com/tailnumbers.html

other information about sept 10th, fom #58 down...
fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html

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Tail # N334AA arrived in SOF at 20:43 W-On-T on the 10th it left as flight 198 to BOS at 22:04 W-Off-T it had a scheduled elaspse time of 334 mins. It had a scheduled arrive time of 6:24, but does not show a wheel on time, arrival time or tail #.

8 planes (of 55) were shown to have arrived before the 911 events started. none show to actually arrive ( no arrival time, wheel on time or tail number)

N612UA departs from SFO to BOS Logan 13:44 W-off-time, gets to Logan at 21:50 W-on-Time. Does not show departing on the 10th . scheduled elapsed time 333 mins /60=5.55hrs2 hours missing ?

13:44 to 21:50 = 7 hours and 6 mins

N591UA leaves ( on the 10th) Logan for ORD at 7:30 gets to Chicago (ORD) at 8:39 wheel on time. Leaves Chicago as flight 642 at 10:43 for Newark, it shows a flight number and tail number, but no wheel on time or arrival time. It shows N591UA as flight 75 to SFO departing wheel off time at 19:40

( a 240 min departure delay and 70 min taxi out time) It arrives in San Fran at 22:07 wheel on time.

Then depart SFO ( as flight 78) at 23:15 wheel off time.

Flight 78 shows scheduled to arrive at 6:22, but shows no arrival, or wheel on time.

3 planes were scheduled to arrive before the 911 events, but the database shows no info of any planes arriving on the morning of september 11th from NWR

As you can see below, tail numbers and arrival times for for flights 74 and 1396 were not available. If these planes landed, then why was this data not recorded? The scheduled arrival times were well before the 911 events started taking place, at that point, it was a normal day.

Airport: Washington, DC - Washington Dulles International (IAD)

Carrier Code	Date (MM/DD/YYYY)	Flight Number	Tail Number	Origin Airport	Scheduled Arrival Time	Actual Arrival Time	Scheduled Elapsed Time	Actual Elapsed Time	Arrival Delay	Wheels-on Time	Taxi-in Time
							(Minutes)	(Minutes)	(Minutes)		(Minutes)
AA	9/11/2001	36	UNKNOW	LAX	23:45	0:00	285	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	74	UNKNOW	LAX	6:29	0:00	284	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	76	UNKNOW	LAX	16:24	0:00	294	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	144	UNKNOW	LAX	20:35	0:00	290	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	314	UNKNOW	SJU	21:01	0:00	221	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	392	UNKNOW	MIA	21:59	0:00	154	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	654	UNKNOW	ORD	12:41	0:00	109	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1182	UNKNOW	DFW	14:42	0:00	165	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1396	UNKNOW	DFW	0:49	0:00	172	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1418	UNKNOW	DFW	16:51	0:00	182	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1786	N2CWAA	ORD	9:09	8:56	108	98	-13	8:51	5
AA	9/11/2001	1796	UNKNOW	ORD	16:08	0:00	112	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1808	UNKNOW	DFW	22:42	0:00	160	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1842	UNKNOW	ORD	19:37	0:00	113	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1874	UNKNOW	ORD	23:17	0:00	108	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1896	UNKNOW	DFW	18:27	0:00	184	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	1938	UNKNOW	DFW	21:30	0:00	169	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/11/2001	2052	UNKNOW	DFW	13:14	0:00	167	0	0	0:00	0

It can be compared to the day before, when every flights tail number and arrival time was recorded.

Airport: Washington, DC - Washington Dulles International (IAD)

Carrier Code	Date (MM/DD/YYYY)	Flight Number	Tail Number	Origin Airport	Scheduled Arrival Time	Actual Arrival Time	Scheduled Elapsed Time	Actual Elapsed Time	Arrival Delay	Wheels-on Time	Taxi-in Time
							(Minutes)	(Minutes)	(Minutes)		(Minutes)
AA	9/10/2001	36	N5DEAA	LAX	23:45	23:46	285	284	1	23:41	5
AA	9/10/2001	74	N305AA	LAX	6:29	6:51	284	280	22	6:42	9
AA	9/10/2001	76	N302AA	LAX	16:24	16:08	294	280	-16	16:03	5
AA	9/10/2001	144	N5BPAA	LAX	20:35	20:27	290	278	-8	20:22	5
AA	9/10/2001	314	N3BFAA	SJU	21:01	21:59	221	219	58	21:52	7
AA	9/10/2001	392	N3CAAA	MIA	21:59	22:40	154	162	41	22:35	5
AA	9/10/2001	654	N2DFAA	ORD	12:41	12:20	109	92	-21	12:14	6
AA	9/10/2001	1182	N866AA	DFW	14:42	15:00	165	184	18	14:51	9
AA	9/10/2001	1396	N493AA	DFW	0:49	0:31	172	154	-18	0:27	4
AA	9/10/2001	1418	UNKNOW	DFW	16:51	0:00	182	0	0	0:00	0
AA	9/10/2001	1786	N2CGAA	ORD	9:09	8:56	108	96	-13	8:48	8
AA	9/10/2001	1796	N2BLAA	ORD	16:08	15:53	112	103	-15	15:48	5
AA	9/10/2001	1802	N219AA	DFW	11:53	11:36	171	155	-17	11:30	6
AA	9/10/2001	1808	N884AA	DFW	22:42	22:43	160	157	1	22:36	7
AA	9/10/2001	1842	N2AGAA	ORD	19:37	19:17	113	98	-20	19:12	5
AA	9/10/2001	1874	N2ANAA	ORD	23:17	23:16	108	107	-1	23:11	5
AA	9/10/2001	1896	N497AA	DFW	18:27	18:07	184	167	-20	18:01	6
AA	9/10/2001	1938	N871AA	DFW	21:30	21:15	169	155	-15	21:10	5
AA	9/10/2001	2052	N871AA	DFW	13:14	13:02	167	156	-12	12:57	5

interestingly , this web page has the wrong tial number for flight 93 they have it listed as (N519UA)
zap16.com/attack%20wtc%20and%20pentagon.htm
so do these ???
flightlinemalta.com/SiteMap/
cactuswings.com/blogs/2001_09_09_movearchive.html
www.angelfire.com/tx3/rayhomepage/911/faq.html
www.emairport.co.uk/disasters/100worst/sept__2001.htm
www.diecastaircraftforum.com/showthread.php?t=7936
www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/78/2001/9/850/6604724/
aircraft archives

www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=09112001®=N644AA&airline=American+Airlines+
N644AA is Deregistered
162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=644AA N644AA

www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=09112001®=N591UA&airline=United+Airlines
N591UA is Assigned
162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=591UA N591UA

www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=09112001%C2%AE=N612UA&airline=United+Airlines+
N612UA is Assigned
162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=612UA N612UA

www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=09112001%C2%AE=N334AA&airline=American+Airlines
N334AA is Deregistered
162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=334AA N334AA

suggested reading...

airgames.bravehost.com/tailnumbers.html (tail numbers... what were the real 911 planes ?)

Airgames - what do we know about the flight maps from 911 ?

World Premiere -WoodyBox: How to steal an airliner and fake a hijacking
This "official" version of what happened on September 11, 2001, has been challenged by many people. Here is a short and incomplete list of objections, most of them still not addressed by officials responsible for the clearing up of the crime:
- The names of the hijackers don't appear on the passenger list
- There is no video footage of the hijackers passing the security check at the airport
- The flying skills of the alleged pilot Mohammed Atta were hardly sufficient to hit the Tower
- The hijackers didn't choose the optimal flight path, i.e., the shortest way to New York City (more...)

"The Secret Hijacking
The Fifth Plane landed in Cleveland..." (Woody Box)
In the morning of September 11, Delta Flight 1989 made an emergency landing at Cleveland Airport. This is a well established fact. Less known to the public is that another airplane landed under similar circumstances about half an hour later, on a different runway.

The Cleveland Airport Mystery

Air Traffic Control Center Ronkonkoma- Red Herring or Cover-up?

Flight 11 - The Twin Flight - airline security issues

transcript of call from flight 11

Security at Dulles + flight 91 and flight 93 !

www.flightlinemalta.com/airaccidents/HijackDisaster11Sep2001/

NTSB - Sep 2001 Aviation Accidents

aviation-safety.net/database/2001/010911-1.htm

HULL LOSSES 2001
www.jacdec.de/2001.htm

photos of the planes
www.dapcom.com/airplanes/memorial0911.htm

other links...

911closeup.com/
Media published fake passenger lists for American Airlines Flight 11
information on all flights september 11
9/11 War Games No Coincidence says Michael Kane

Airport News Archive Sept 10th 2001
archives.californiaaviation.org/airport/mail75.html

flight maps...
www.debug-digital.de/lebensaspekte/groundzero/aal77_3.html
www.caapilots.com/News/TradeCenterPaths.htm
911 Flight paths

Flight 77 Dulles gate security video

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thermal wtc images

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